Let’s Get Personal – Some Interview Advice for Students
For a number of years now I’ve been involved in providing careers advice to students. Schools and colleges seem to be a lot better nowadays at bringing in people from industry to provide advice, rather than the situation when I was at school where much of my advice on a career in advertising came from my German teacher.
Take away the hours spent sitting at tables in echoing school / college halls, confused attempts at assembling exhibition panels and the embarrassing spells when no-one wants to speak to you, it has all been a very rewarding experience.
Variously I’m speaking to students who are looking at A level choices, HND or BTEC choices or degree choices. And in almost all cases I find that the careers advice given to students is getting better. It really is. What I find quite remarkably lacking though, is good interview advice.
Students looking to win a place in Further or Higher education generally need to win over an admissions tutor or two, demonstrating that they have flair enough to respond to teaching, and hopefully a style or passion that shows that they are dedicated to their subject. This is pretty fundamental stuff. You’ll notice that I didn’t make reference to anything in that last statement that said they need to be ‘good’ at
their subject. We all know how subjective that statement is; what is vital is that they show a passion for their subject and (here’s the kicker) an interest that goes beyond anything that they have been asked to produce before at school.
I’ve spent hours looking at portfolios that show exactly the same work, all school or college projects, and all of them predictable and executed using the same techniques. This is because most A-level or BTEC courses up and down the country generally request the same or similar projects of their students. These students then tidy up these projects, pack them in their portfolios and take them to interviews to
present to a tutor who has seen 20 students already that day, all with the same work. And those tutors get bored. Really bored.
So how to break that boredom? It shouldn’t even require explanation, but it does because when you are young it is hard to see things from the point of view of the tutor. And after all, most of the advice you receive comes from your careers advisor who is generally telling you to take school work.
Creative subjects should be fun. They should be something you are passionate about, and that you work on outside of school or college hours regardless of what project your tutor has you working on. You should be scribbling in scrapbooks, taking photographs, building sites, working on Flash animations or making videos. Why would you not?
Most students I speak to, when quizzed persistently about their personal projects have plenty to show. If you’re lucky enough to find the right student, they will have plenty of good work to show. But they all look shocked when you suggest that they present it! In my experience it is assumed that you show school or college work only at interview.
The fear is of course that this work somehow has less value than a project your school or college has asked you to, because surely all that schooling has been leading up this moment? That’s undeniably so, but your admissions tutor will want to see a little bit of what makes you, you. What makes you tick? What are your personal interests creatively and how do you plan to explore those interests during the
course?
Take one case in point. Day 2 of interviews, 15:30. 12 students in, and so far we had seen mostly the same projects presented to us. Enter student ‘A’ who wants to show us his portfolio website of photographs. Photographs of manhole covers from across Europe. The are beautifully photographed, hand printed on bromide paper, and then scanned, annotated with fabulous typography and worked
into a slick slideshow with music, transitions and the option to buy prints. Bizarre? Certainly. But it was so accomplished the he stood out from the crowd, and got a large tick by his name. I won’t go so far as to say I bought a print, but I was impressed by the dedication and hard work that had brought this project together. He was working on this in his spare time.
No tutor was asking him to do this. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not advocating the wholesale rejection of school or college work from these interviews – rather I’m encouraging students to consider that they will be one of many who will be presenting (more than likely) the same work over and over. I am also highlighting the huge importance of your personal interests and creative ambitions as these are ultimately what will fuel you through your course. Don’t undervalue these projects, no matter how unfinished they might be, or how insignificant you might consider them. They all show a dedication to work that is never evident in course work. Straight away this makes you a safer bet as a student as it shows that regardless of your education, you
are a creatively active person.
Being creative is something you are. It’s not something you just ‘do’.
About Andy Wickes
I'm a Creative Director from Surrey, managing a team of web designers at Jellybean Creative. We produce online creative for the food and drink industry. I also lecture on graphic design, digital media, animation and photography and help schools and art colleges to keep their courses relevant.
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And that’s why arts degrees are not worthless. I know they’re often compared to the sciences, which is a completely ridiculous comparison in my opinion, but they’re just different is all. Creativity is in the blood and for those people, arts degrees are worth the time and money they will spend. It might not be so for those inclined towards the sciences but I’m betting they won’t be going for the same kinds of graduate jobs as arts graduates. There’s room for both and I’m a little tired of seeing one elevated above the other.
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It is really interesting that Dan has found the careers advice offered at schools and colleges outdated, as this has been my experience too. I am a recent graduate and left university with little idea of how to approach job hunting creatively. I would advise those still at school to start seeking advice online NOW rather than waiting until they graduate.
For example, the Graduate Recruitment Bureau (www.grb.uk.com) have really helped me, with up to date, free advice on creative job hunting as well as new vacancies across all sectors. They even offered me temp work to help boost my CV whilst I carry on with my job hunt!
Whether you are into the arts, media, sciences or public sector, start your research early so you know exactly how to impress the people who do the hiring and the firing!
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I completely agree. Career advice in schools and unis is pretty decent nowadays, but actually GETTING that job is something different. I genuinely believe that unis and schools should dedicate a couple of lessons to looking at interview technique and things that you can do to make you stand out.
It’s incredibly important to work off your own back to prove to a prospective employer that you have the drive and ambition they’re looking for. Having qualifications is no way a ticket to getting a job, especially not in this climate. My advice to all school or uni leavers would be to spend at least an hour a week building your own portfolio of your own passions and talents away from the normal stuff everyone else is doing as well.
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