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		<title>Comment on Steps towards building an accessible site: part 1 by Ethan Jones</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-4/building-accessible-sites-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-231</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 03:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dyslexia is not that debiliating but it is somewhat limiting to the kind of job that you can get~:;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dyslexia is not that debiliating but it is somewhat limiting to the kind of job that you can get~:;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Employment and Portfolios by Alex Long</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-1/employment-and-portfolios/comment-page-1/#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 01:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>careers employment may be necessary for building your career track..`</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>careers employment may be necessary for building your career track..`</p>
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		<title>Comment on Steps towards building an accessible site: part 1 by Lacey Cook</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-4/building-accessible-sites-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>Lacey Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 16:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Cruise have dyslexia and yet he is still a very successful actor.*;:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Cruise have dyslexia and yet he is still a very successful actor.*;:</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Nuggets in Scrunchup by Anna Debenham</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/css-nuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-228</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Debenham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 21:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil - yes, transform:rotate() can be used on text elements. Take a look at our tag cloud at the top of the page. We&#039;ve got a small clockwise rotation on some of the links, small anticlockwise on others, and nothing on the rest.

&lt;code&gt;.tag-cloud a:link:nth-of-type(3n+1) {
-moz-transform:rotate(2deg);
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil &#8211; yes, transform:rotate() can be used on text elements. Take a look at our tag cloud at the top of the page. We&#8217;ve got a small clockwise rotation on some of the links, small anticlockwise on others, and nothing on the rest.</p>
<p><code>.tag-cloud a:link:nth-of-type(3n+1) {<br />
-moz-transform:rotate(2deg);<br />
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		<title>Comment on CSS Nuggets in Scrunchup by Phil</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/css-nuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-227</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 03:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m on my phone so I haven&#039;t been 
able to test anything yet.

Do you know if

                 transform:rotate()

can be used on text elements?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m on my phone so I haven&#8217;t been<br />
able to test anything yet.</p>
<p>Do you know if</p>
<p>                 transform:rotate()</p>
<p>can be used on text elements?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Let&#8217;s Get Personal &#8211; Some Interview Advice for Students by Nic</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-7/lets-get-personal-some-interview-advice-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>Nic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that&#039;s why arts degrees are not worthless. I know they&#039;re often compared to the sciences, which is a completely ridiculous comparison in my opinion, but they&#039;re just different is all. Creativity is in the blood and for those people, arts degrees are worth the time and money they will spend. It might not be so for those inclined towards the sciences but I&#039;m betting they won&#039;t be going for the same kinds of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.graduate-jobs.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;graduate jobs&lt;/a&gt; as arts graduates. There&#039;s room for both and I&#039;m a little tired of seeing one elevated above the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that&#8217;s why arts degrees are not worthless. I know they&#8217;re often compared to the sciences, which is a completely ridiculous comparison in my opinion, but they&#8217;re just different is all. Creativity is in the blood and for those people, arts degrees are worth the time and money they will spend. It might not be so for those inclined towards the sciences but I&#8217;m betting they won&#8217;t be going for the same kinds of <a href="http://www.graduate-jobs.com/" rel="nofollow">graduate jobs</a> as arts graduates. There&#8217;s room for both and I&#8217;m a little tired of seeing one elevated above the other.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Let&#8217;s Get Personal &#8211; Some Interview Advice for Students by Genesis Alexander</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-7/lets-get-personal-some-interview-advice-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>Genesis Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 08:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love to eat and drink exotic foods and delicacies from all over the world.-~;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love to eat and drink exotic foods and delicacies from all over the world.-~;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Matt Haff&#8217;s Web Design Toolkit by matt.haff</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-6/matt-haffs-web-design-toolkit/comment-page-1/#comment-223</link>
		<dc:creator>matt.haff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 14:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Daniel

I&#039;ve been using Dreamweaver for a long time and haven&#039;t seen a need to change yet. Let me clear something up about Photoshop... Adobe&#039;s software does so much stuff that trying to spread yourself thin by learning more than a couple leads you to only be average in them. I&#039;ve been working in Photoshop for 10 years so that&#039;s what I continue to use. I haven&#039;t found myself in a situation where Photoshop wasn&#039;t able to do what I needed it to. 

On a side note, my business partner who does all the graphic design uses Illustrator, because that&#039;s what he&#039;s been using for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Daniel</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using Dreamweaver for a long time and haven&#8217;t seen a need to change yet. Let me clear something up about Photoshop&#8230; Adobe&#8217;s software does so much stuff that trying to spread yourself thin by learning more than a couple leads you to only be average in them. I&#8217;ve been working in Photoshop for 10 years so that&#8217;s what I continue to use. I haven&#8217;t found myself in a situation where Photoshop wasn&#8217;t able to do what I needed it to. </p>
<p>On a side note, my business partner who does all the graphic design uses Illustrator, because that&#8217;s what he&#8217;s been using for years.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Matt Haff&#8217;s Web Design Toolkit by Daniel Nordstrom</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-6/matt-haffs-web-design-toolkit/comment-page-1/#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Nordstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 13:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rare to see someone &quot;pitching&quot; Dreamweaver these days, I&#039;m a TextMate user myself and haven&#039;t touched Dw for many years. But enough has been said about that already, I&#039;ll leave it before we get a flame war started.

The issue keeps popping up everywhere — Photoshop in web design. It&#039;s an issue because it&#039;s a photo editing software, not meant for &quot;web design&quot;, yet so many of those who call themselves web designers use it as their universal tool for everything they believe is design. It&#039;s all about &quot;slicing PSDs&quot;.

Illustrator is a vector graphics app and would do a better job at designing graphics for websites. Fireworks can put it together to a prototype. Let&#039;s leave Photoshop for our photos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rare to see someone &#8220;pitching&#8221; Dreamweaver these days, I&#8217;m a TextMate user myself and haven&#8217;t touched Dw for many years. But enough has been said about that already, I&#8217;ll leave it before we get a flame war started.</p>
<p>The issue keeps popping up everywhere — Photoshop in web design. It&#8217;s an issue because it&#8217;s a photo editing software, not meant for &#8220;web design&#8221;, yet so many of those who call themselves web designers use it as their universal tool for everything they believe is design. It&#8217;s all about &#8220;slicing PSDs&#8221;.</p>
<p>Illustrator is a vector graphics app and would do a better job at designing graphics for websites. Fireworks can put it together to a prototype. Let&#8217;s leave Photoshop for our photos.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Matt Haff&#8217;s Web Design Toolkit by Ali</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-6/matt-haffs-web-design-toolkit/comment-page-1/#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 08:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actualy, Komodo Edit is 100% free. Komodo IDE costs money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actualy, Komodo Edit is 100% free. Komodo IDE costs money.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Developing using Twitter: Part 1 by Melvin Hower</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-4/developing-using-twitter-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>Melvin Hower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love to use Twitter whenever i want to know the latest buzz about my friends. I also use Twitter to know the latest buzz from famous persons     *</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love to use Twitter whenever i want to know the latest buzz about my friends. I also use Twitter to know the latest buzz from famous persons     *</p>
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		<title>Comment on Knowing how much to charge by Gareth Edwards</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-3/knowing-how-much-to-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-212</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very sensible, measured thoughts on the topic.  It is a hard area to get right and easy to feel pressured into charging less than you are worth.

Thanks

Gareth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very sensible, measured thoughts on the topic.  It is a hard area to get right and easy to feel pressured into charging less than you are worth.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Gareth</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Evolution of a jQuery Plugin by Rob</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/the-evolution-of-a-jquery-plugin/comment-page-1/#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This code didn&#039;t work.  How about a demo link?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This code didn&#8217;t work.  How about a demo link?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Matt Haff&#8217;s Web Design Toolkit by Vincent</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-6/matt-haffs-web-design-toolkit/comment-page-1/#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 18:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting and informative.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Matt Haff&#8217;s Web Design Toolkit by matt.haff</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-6/matt-haffs-web-design-toolkit/comment-page-1/#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>matt.haff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 22:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ryan

I just find it ironic that a site for such an awesome tool would look like that. You could probably manage to build a good website with Notepad++ however I didn&#039;t see anything in there that would help with managing multiple website projects?  Please correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but one of the things that helps separate Dreamweaver is that you can easily manage hundred&#039;s of sites with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ryan</p>
<p>I just find it ironic that a site for such an awesome tool would look like that. You could probably manage to build a good website with Notepad++ however I didn&#8217;t see anything in there that would help with managing multiple website projects?  Please correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but one of the things that helps separate Dreamweaver is that you can easily manage hundred&#8217;s of sites with it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Matt Haff&#8217;s Web Design Toolkit by Ryan McCue</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-6/matt-haffs-web-design-toolkit/comment-page-1/#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan McCue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 02:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Haff:

There&#039;s no reason why Notepad++ can&#039;t be used to make the same sorts of sites that you can do in Dreamweaver. http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/ is not an indication of Notepad++&#039;s ability, but rather the guy who made the site (he&#039;s a C++ programmer, not a web designer).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Haff:</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no reason why Notepad++ can&#8217;t be used to make the same sorts of sites that you can do in Dreamweaver. <a href="http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/" rel="nofollow">http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/</a> is not an indication of Notepad++&#8217;s ability, but rather the guy who made the site (he&#8217;s a C++ programmer, not a web designer).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Matt Haff&#8217;s Web Design Toolkit by Gareth Poole</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-6/matt-haffs-web-design-toolkit/comment-page-1/#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth Poole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coda + Espresso &gt; DW on the mac!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coda + Espresso &gt; DW on the mac!</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Nuggets in Scrunchup by John McFarlane</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/css-nuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>John McFarlane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome article Anna, some really great tips for everyone. keep up the great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome article Anna, some really great tips for everyone. keep up the great work!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Matt Haff&#8217;s Web Design Toolkit by matt.haff</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-6/matt-haffs-web-design-toolkit/comment-page-1/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>matt.haff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack,

First off, I appreciate the feedback and let me start by saying that this is my toolkit and it&#039;s what works best for me. I stopped searching for web development apps once I began using Dreamweaver 8 and I personally think that Dreamweaver CS4 is worth the $399.

While I haven&#039;t used all of the programs that you mentioned I have used some of them and they didn&#039;t even come close to the capabilities and functionalities of Dreamweaver. If on a tighter budget then these might actually be worth looking into: Aptana, Coda, Textmate, Espresso, BBEdit 

On the other hand don&#039;t fool yourself into thinking these programs will get you by: 
Notepad++ - Maybe if you wanna design a site like this:  http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net
Komodo - Actually it&#039;s only free for 21 days then you have to pay $145
Textwrangler - not built for developing websites, only for editing an existing file.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack,</p>
<p>First off, I appreciate the feedback and let me start by saying that this is my toolkit and it&#8217;s what works best for me. I stopped searching for web development apps once I began using Dreamweaver 8 and I personally think that Dreamweaver CS4 is worth the $399.</p>
<p>While I haven&#8217;t used all of the programs that you mentioned I have used some of them and they didn&#8217;t even come close to the capabilities and functionalities of Dreamweaver. If on a tighter budget then these might actually be worth looking into: Aptana, Coda, Textmate, Espresso, BBEdit </p>
<p>On the other hand don&#8217;t fool yourself into thinking these programs will get you by:<br />
Notepad++ &#8211; Maybe if you wanna design a site like this:  <a href="http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net" rel="nofollow">http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net</a><br />
Komodo &#8211; Actually it&#8217;s only free for 21 days then you have to pay $145<br />
Textwrangler &#8211; not built for developing websites, only for editing an existing file.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Matt Haff&#8217;s Web Design Toolkit by Jack F</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-6/matt-haffs-web-design-toolkit/comment-page-1/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but whilst Dw is the industry standard, for students it&#039;s incredibly difficult to afford. If you are on a tighter budget, might I suggest:
Windows:
Notepad++
Aptana
Komodo
(all free)
Mac:
Coda ($60)
Textmate ($60)
Aptana (free)
Espresso ($50)
Komodo (free)
BBEdit
Textwrangler (free)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but whilst Dw is the industry standard, for students it&#8217;s incredibly difficult to afford. If you are on a tighter budget, might I suggest:<br />
Windows:<br />
Notepad++<br />
Aptana<br />
Komodo<br />
(all free)<br />
Mac:<br />
Coda ($60)<br />
Textmate ($60)<br />
Aptana (free)<br />
Espresso ($50)<br />
Komodo (free)<br />
BBEdit<br />
Textwrangler (free)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Matt Haff&#8217;s Web Design Toolkit by Web Designer Friendly Processes &#124; Church &#38; Web Design</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-6/matt-haffs-web-design-toolkit/comment-page-1/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Designer Friendly Processes &#124; Church &#38; Web Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 03:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] had the honor of writing this article in complete detail at ScrunchUp.com, if you wanna get the rest of this go check out the full article. If you like what you read, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] had the honor of writing this article in complete detail at ScrunchUp.com, if you wanna get the rest of this go check out the full article. If you like what you read, [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Matt Haff&#8217;s Web Design Toolkit by matt.haff</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-6/matt-haffs-web-design-toolkit/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>matt.haff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tom! Wufoo has saved me a huge amount of time and money by being able to quickly make a custom form with all of the built in functionalities. That&#039;s a pretty good resource you&#039;ve got there, looks like a lot of time well spent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tom! Wufoo has saved me a huge amount of time and money by being able to quickly make a custom form with all of the built in functionalities. That&#8217;s a pretty good resource you&#8217;ve got there, looks like a lot of time well spent.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Matt Haff&#8217;s Web Design Toolkit by Tom Shivers</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-6/matt-haffs-web-design-toolkit/comment-page-1/#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Shivers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great stuff Matt, especially wufoo. One tool I&#039;ve been creating is to help web designers better engage their online audience, check it out: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.capturecommerce.com/audience-engagement.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;research, tools and services to help designers engage their target market&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff Matt, especially wufoo. One tool I&#8217;ve been creating is to help web designers better engage their online audience, check it out: <a href="http://www.capturecommerce.com/audience-engagement.php" rel="nofollow">research, tools and services to help designers engage their target market</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Simple steps towards building an accessible site (part 2) by Russell Bishop</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-5/simple-steps-towards-building-an-accessible-site-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 03:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some excellent points raised here, which is great, as accessiblity is crucial in this industry.

I find that improving your website&#039;s accessibility is really just abiding to a set of rules. Grea thing is this eveentually because part of your natural worklflow and - hey presto! We&#039;ve accessible websites with ease!

Cheers for the article Ms. Swan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some excellent points raised here, which is great, as accessiblity is crucial in this industry.</p>
<p>I find that improving your website&#8217;s accessibility is really just abiding to a set of rules. Grea thing is this eveentually because part of your natural worklflow and &#8211; hey presto! We&#8217;ve accessible websites with ease!</p>
<p>Cheers for the article Ms. Swan!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Simple steps towards building an accessible site (part 2) by ihenix</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-5/simple-steps-towards-building-an-accessible-site-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>ihenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stelt - you are right in that kids also fall into (or overlap into) this category. I say overlap as I always think kinds have an easier time learning and difficulties are soon overcome. 

Typo&#039;s fixed! Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stelt &#8211; you are right in that kids also fall into (or overlap into) this category. I say overlap as I always think kinds have an easier time learning and difficulties are soon overcome. </p>
<p>Typo&#8217;s fixed! Thank you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Simple steps towards building an accessible site (part 2) by stelt</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-5/simple-steps-towards-building-an-accessible-site-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>stelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about young kids? Many use the web well before their school years.
They have some of the limitations mentioned, even though most quickly grow (though often for a very, very long time, but usually temporarily) out of them.

typos:
&quot;In may countries&quot;
; instead of &#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about young kids? Many use the web well before their school years.<br />
They have some of the limitations mentioned, even though most quickly grow (though often for a very, very long time, but usually temporarily) out of them.</p>
<p>typos:<br />
&#8220;In may countries&#8221;<br />
; instead of &#8216;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Simple steps towards building an accessible site (part 2) by John Faulds</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-5/simple-steps-towards-building-an-accessible-site-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-164</link>
		<dc:creator>John Faulds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to point out that it&#039;s not just IE6 that won&#039;t resize text sized in pixels if you use the View / Text size option; IE7 &amp; 8 do the same thing - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200902/ie_8_still_does_not_resize_text_sized_in_pixels/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200902/ie_8_still_does_not_resize_text_sized_in_pixels/&lt;/a&gt;.

Granted that 7 &amp; 8 also include page zoom, but you can&#039;t assume that everyone will use page zoom over the other text sizing option, particularly if the user is already familiar with how it worked in IE6.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to point out that it&#8217;s not just IE6 that won&#8217;t resize text sized in pixels if you use the View / Text size option; IE7 &amp; 8 do the same thing &#8211; <a href="http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200902/ie_8_still_does_not_resize_text_sized_in_pixels/" rel="nofollow">http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200902/ie_8_still_does_not_resize_text_sized_in_pixels/</a>.</p>
<p>Granted that 7 &amp; 8 also include page zoom, but you can&#8217;t assume that everyone will use page zoom over the other text sizing option, particularly if the user is already familiar with how it worked in IE6.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Simple steps towards building an accessible site (part 2) by Henny</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-5/simple-steps-towards-building-an-accessible-site-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Henny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments everyone, some really good points raised about the px issue on fonts for IE. 

Ian mentioning that in a two year development cycle for a website is very valid and raises an important point which is that when making sites accessible you want to consider how best to implement an accessible site depending on your business. So, for example, if you&#039;re a large UK organisation with users based just in the UK then leaving behind flexible fonts makes sense. If your site has more of a global outreach you may want to think again (Korea is locked into IE, China uses it heavily for example).

WCAG are guidelines and not as prescriptive as we all think and should be thought about within the context of the site you work on.

Jamie - I am with you on autoplay completely. Both a usability and accessibility fail :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments everyone, some really good points raised about the px issue on fonts for IE. </p>
<p>Ian mentioning that in a two year development cycle for a website is very valid and raises an important point which is that when making sites accessible you want to consider how best to implement an accessible site depending on your business. So, for example, if you&#8217;re a large UK organisation with users based just in the UK then leaving behind flexible fonts makes sense. If your site has more of a global outreach you may want to think again (Korea is locked into IE, China uses it heavily for example).</p>
<p>WCAG are guidelines and not as prescriptive as we all think and should be thought about within the context of the site you work on.</p>
<p>Jamie &#8211; I am with you on autoplay completely. Both a usability and accessibility fail :(</p>
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		<title>Comment on Simple steps towards building an accessible site (part 2) by The Lance Shabazz Show # 119 part 2 &#124; Cult Following</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-5/simple-steps-towards-building-an-accessible-site-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>The Lance Shabazz Show # 119 part 2 &#124; Cult Following</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Simple steps towards building an accessible site (part 2) by Horror/Cult/Exploitation DVD Update Part 6 (7/5/09) &#124; Cult Following</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-5/simple-steps-towards-building-an-accessible-site-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>Horror/Cult/Exploitation DVD Update Part 6 (7/5/09) &#124; Cult Following</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Real time web apps by Phil Leggetter</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-5/real-time-web-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Leggetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very good introduction to real-time web and the technologies that can be used to power it. You might also want to look into Comet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_(programming)) and support for PUSH notifications without the need for plugins (Flash) or HTML5 support (which only some browsers support). This PUSH technology has been around for years and I think the next year or so will be a big year for Comet as we see more and more real-time web applications being developed.

The technology doesn&#039;t have to be difficult to use and as Comet and other real-time web technologies become more mainstream we&#039;ll see some well documented examples of how it can be used leading to its increased adoption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very good introduction to real-time web and the technologies that can be used to power it. You might also want to look into Comet (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_(programming)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_(programming)</a>) and support for PUSH notifications without the need for plugins (Flash) or HTML5 support (which only some browsers support). This PUSH technology has been around for years and I think the next year or so will be a big year for Comet as we see more and more real-time web applications being developed.</p>
<p>The technology doesn&#8217;t have to be difficult to use and as Comet and other real-time web technologies become more mainstream we&#8217;ll see some well documented examples of how it can be used leading to its increased adoption.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Real time web apps by Jose Duenas</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-5/real-time-web-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose Duenas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job Jamie!
You have done a really clear explanation about the real-time communication is. Brilliant!

Kind regards,
Jose</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job Jamie!<br />
You have done a really clear explanation about the real-time communication is. Brilliant!</p>
<p>Kind regards,<br />
Jose</p>
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		<title>Comment on Simple steps towards building an accessible site (part 2) by Jamie Knight</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-5/simple-steps-towards-building-an-accessible-site-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiya,

Great article, as discussed above i think EM and PX sizing is less of an issue than it once was. I think the WCAG has it right, its a good thing to have, though not anywhere near as important as it use to be. In recent projects i have returned to using PX sizing, i can&#039;t say i ever completely got my head around em sizing and i do find it faster (and easier to code up design accurately!). A good example of this is recently with a large site, i was provided the CSS and HTML for the header and footer and was not allowed to change it on pain of death!

 Along the lines of the same topic, much can also be said about the prevalence of full page zooming. Although a flexible layout which does not break when using text resizing is important, i feel that as more and more browsers default to full page zooming this will become less important.

Just to add what Henny  has said about video, one of my frustrations with video relates to autoplay. If someone is reliant on audio output or is greatly disturbed or distracted by it, then auto playing video can be a very very painful experience!

Overall a great article and series, nice one to henny and thanks to anna for publishing it!

Cheers, 

Jamie &amp; Lion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiya,</p>
<p>Great article, as discussed above i think EM and PX sizing is less of an issue than it once was. I think the WCAG has it right, its a good thing to have, though not anywhere near as important as it use to be. In recent projects i have returned to using PX sizing, i can&#8217;t say i ever completely got my head around em sizing and i do find it faster (and easier to code up design accurately!). A good example of this is recently with a large site, i was provided the CSS and HTML for the header and footer and was not allowed to change it on pain of death!</p>
<p> Along the lines of the same topic, much can also be said about the prevalence of full page zooming. Although a flexible layout which does not break when using text resizing is important, i feel that as more and more browsers default to full page zooming this will become less important.</p>
<p>Just to add what Henny  has said about video, one of my frustrations with video relates to autoplay. If someone is reliant on audio output or is greatly disturbed or distracted by it, then auto playing video can be a very very painful experience!</p>
<p>Overall a great article and series, nice one to henny and thanks to anna for publishing it!</p>
<p>Cheers, </p>
<p>Jamie &amp; Lion</p>
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		<title>Comment on Simple steps towards building an accessible site (part 2) by Simple plan vacation &#124; Luggage Porn</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-5/simple-steps-towards-building-an-accessible-site-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Simple plan vacation &#124; Luggage Porn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Simple steps towards building an accessible site (part 2) by Ian Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-5/simple-steps-towards-building-an-accessible-site-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 11:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Henny,

Couple of points I wanted to add. Like Doug S, I&#039;ve become less concerned about the px issue on fonts for IE. Defining standards for a project at work that will be up to two years in the making, I&#039;ve dropped that requirement on the basis that IE6 in 2 years time will account for so many fewer users and you have to draw the line somewhere ... that said, it comes with a warning. I&#039;m reasonably comfortable specifying px sizes for fonts, but start to get nervous if those are anything under 20px.

The other thing was regarding the alt attribute. The images shows the street with the alt attribute, but that&#039;s IE doing what no other browser does - displaying the *alternative* when the original is still there. It *might* suggest to less experienced readers that alt attribute may be used for hover text, which of course it isn&#039;t so, perhaps an example showing a missing image with the alternative text might be slightly safer? 

Anyway, minor niggles - always good to have an article that encapsulates the main points well (and I&#039;ll also add that I really like the design of scrunchup -lots of nice CSS text treatments)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Henny,</p>
<p>Couple of points I wanted to add. Like Doug S, I&#8217;ve become less concerned about the px issue on fonts for IE. Defining standards for a project at work that will be up to two years in the making, I&#8217;ve dropped that requirement on the basis that IE6 in 2 years time will account for so many fewer users and you have to draw the line somewhere &#8230; that said, it comes with a warning. I&#8217;m reasonably comfortable specifying px sizes for fonts, but start to get nervous if those are anything under 20px.</p>
<p>The other thing was regarding the alt attribute. The images shows the street with the alt attribute, but that&#8217;s IE doing what no other browser does &#8211; displaying the *alternative* when the original is still there. It *might* suggest to less experienced readers that alt attribute may be used for hover text, which of course it isn&#8217;t so, perhaps an example showing a missing image with the alternative text might be slightly safer? </p>
<p>Anyway, minor niggles &#8211; always good to have an article that encapsulates the main points well (and I&#8217;ll also add that I really like the design of scrunchup -lots of nice CSS text treatments)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Steps towards building an accessible site: part 1 by Hector Parra</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-4/building-accessible-sites-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>Hector Parra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 09:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the accessibility point of view, what is the proper way to markup information like a mailing address?

Along those lines, how to microformats like hCard fit in, if at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the accessibility point of view, what is the proper way to markup information like a mailing address?</p>
<p>Along those lines, how to microformats like hCard fit in, if at all?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Simple steps towards building an accessible site (part 2) by Henny</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-5/simple-steps-towards-building-an-accessible-site-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator>Henny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Doug, you have a point in that most modern browsers today handles scaling of text (as well as images and the rest of the page). In fact under the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 using relative font sizing is no longer a Success Criteria as it was in WCAG 1.0 and is instead a recommended technique (if memory hasn&#039;t let me down).

That said however there are still a huge amount of IE6 users out there. Many don&#039;t have the opportunity to upgrade or switch their browsers as they ar locked into using IE6 in work situations and so on. I tend to still use relative font sizes so as to ensure these users don&#039;t get left behind but agree that the landscape will have to eventually change. Bring it on I say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Doug, you have a point in that most modern browsers today handles scaling of text (as well as images and the rest of the page). In fact under the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 using relative font sizing is no longer a Success Criteria as it was in WCAG 1.0 and is instead a recommended technique (if memory hasn&#8217;t let me down).</p>
<p>That said however there are still a huge amount of IE6 users out there. Many don&#8217;t have the opportunity to upgrade or switch their browsers as they ar locked into using IE6 in work situations and so on. I tend to still use relative font sizes so as to ensure these users don&#8217;t get left behind but agree that the landscape will have to eventually change. Bring it on I say!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Simple steps towards building an accessible site (part 2) by Doug S.</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-5/simple-steps-towards-building-an-accessible-site-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 01:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great and I agree with most of this except the bit about using % or EMs to define text size.

My reason for this is simple: The ONLY people who will even know the difference are IE6 users. Anyone with a remotely recent version of Opera, Firefox or Safari or IE7 and IE8 can scale text whether it&#039;s in %, EMs, pixels or points.

Since this measure only helps a fraction of a fraction of users your time would actually be better spent providing better accessibility to other users. What colors you choose, making sure everything is semantic and with the proper alt or title tags is a better use of your time, in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great and I agree with most of this except the bit about using % or EMs to define text size.</p>
<p>My reason for this is simple: The ONLY people who will even know the difference are IE6 users. Anyone with a remotely recent version of Opera, Firefox or Safari or IE7 and IE8 can scale text whether it&#8217;s in %, EMs, pixels or points.</p>
<p>Since this measure only helps a fraction of a fraction of users your time would actually be better spent providing better accessibility to other users. What colors you choose, making sure everything is semantic and with the proper alt or title tags is a better use of your time, in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Proper Web Standards Education: Part 1 by auake Inc.</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-1/a-proper-web-standards-education/comment-page-1/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>auake Inc.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pretty article,i&#039;m not good english but i try to read this article.i think its useful and simple ... thanks</description>
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		<title>Comment on What are the different languages? by Linda</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-0/what-are-the-different-language/comment-page-1/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool. Very informative.</description>
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		<title>Comment on A Proper Web Standards Education: Part 3 by Chris</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-3/a-proper-web-standards-education-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments guys. And yes, you are right Ben, in that my statistics are potentially misleading, for exactly the reasons you state. But the number will still be worryingly low, even if you take this into account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments guys. And yes, you are right Ben, in that my statistics are potentially misleading, for exactly the reasons you state. But the number will still be worryingly low, even if you take this into account.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What are the different languages? by Wendy</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-0/what-are-the-different-language/comment-page-1/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article!</description>
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		<title>Comment on A Proper Web Standards Education: Part 3 by Ben Callahan</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-3/a-proper-web-standards-education-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Callahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Chris. I agree with the premise of this. However, the stat at the beginning of the article (4.13% of sites validate) is a bit misleading. I think there are more &quot;standards aware&quot; designer/developers out there. I&#039;ve watched beautifully semantic sites that validate perfectly turn into validation disasters once a client is given control of the content through some kind of CMS. Does this mean that the site no longer validates? Yes. Does it mean that the core principles of web standards are not serving as a foundation for the site? No. The cost difference (for my organization) to make a site validate with *normal* content compared to making it validate forever with whatever a client can throw at it is huge.

I recognize that this is a separate problem and absolutely agree, but wonder if there really is a good way to measure this kind of thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Chris. I agree with the premise of this. However, the stat at the beginning of the article (4.13% of sites validate) is a bit misleading. I think there are more &#8220;standards aware&#8221; designer/developers out there. I&#8217;ve watched beautifully semantic sites that validate perfectly turn into validation disasters once a client is given control of the content through some kind of CMS. Does this mean that the site no longer validates? Yes. Does it mean that the core principles of web standards are not serving as a foundation for the site? No. The cost difference (for my organization) to make a site validate with *normal* content compared to making it validate forever with whatever a client can throw at it is huge.</p>
<p>I recognize that this is a separate problem and absolutely agree, but wonder if there really is a good way to measure this kind of thing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Proper Web Standards Education: Part 3 by Adam</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-3/a-proper-web-standards-education-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At Winchester School of Art the workshops I run with xhtml and css are all content out (Andy Clark transcending CSS is our core reading) and are very web standards focused :D

It much better from everyones point of view.

We teach basic simple chtml using text based editors I currently favour Netbeans but we have used Jedit in the past and use the macrabbit app CSS Edit to do the styling.

Thats my story, but I agree many lecturers and most students come in only knowing dreamweaver and creating visual layout in a way that creates terrible code that they cant fathom at all anyway.

Here is some online material I created/used last academic year for the practical work of starting to build a content out, clean markup site (needs revamping and I am looking at yours and the wasp stuff to boost it up)  http://wsa.wikidot.com/techguides:xhtml 

Prior to this students do design work creating static designs and focus on design using current skills with PS and Indesign.

Here is one students work from the class http://wsadirectory.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At Winchester School of Art the workshops I run with xhtml and css are all content out (Andy Clark transcending CSS is our core reading) and are very web standards focused :D</p>
<p>It much better from everyones point of view.</p>
<p>We teach basic simple chtml using text based editors I currently favour Netbeans but we have used Jedit in the past and use the macrabbit app CSS Edit to do the styling.</p>
<p>Thats my story, but I agree many lecturers and most students come in only knowing dreamweaver and creating visual layout in a way that creates terrible code that they cant fathom at all anyway.</p>
<p>Here is some online material I created/used last academic year for the practical work of starting to build a content out, clean markup site (needs revamping and I am looking at yours and the wasp stuff to boost it up)  <a href="http://wsa.wikidot.com/techguides:xhtml" rel="nofollow">http://wsa.wikidot.com/techguides:xhtml</a> </p>
<p>Prior to this students do design work creating static designs and focus on design using current skills with PS and Indesign.</p>
<p>Here is one students work from the class <a href="http://wsadirectory.org/" rel="nofollow">http://wsadirectory.org/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Knowing how much to charge by ruthersish</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-3/knowing-how-much-to-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>ruthersish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really useful, thanks! It&#039;s my first time to your site – I&#039;ll be back :)</description>
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		<title>Comment on Whats your job title? by Is Billing Analyst good first job for a finance graduate? Is it a good job title? &#124; 2.0 Webstyle</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-3/whats-your-job-title/comment-page-1/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Is Billing Analyst good first job for a finance graduate? Is it a good job title? &#124; 2.0 Webstyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 11:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Knowing how much to charge by Grant McAllister</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-3/knowing-how-much-to-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant McAllister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 03:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, I&#039;m really enjoying the Scrunch Up series keep it coming guys. 

On another note, the typography and readability of the blog posts are out standing, It&#039;s actually a joy to read!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, I&#8217;m really enjoying the Scrunch Up series keep it coming guys. </p>
<p>On another note, the typography and readability of the blog posts are out standing, It&#8217;s actually a joy to read!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Proper Web Standards Education: Part 3 by Daniel Lambert</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-3/a-proper-web-standards-education-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so true. Education is a big part of why people don&#039;t create sites with web standards. At school I did a BTEC IT course which took up two GCSES everyone and I mean everyone got the top grade because it was so easy and all you had to do was make some stuff in Office. We did make a website but it was just open up Dreamweaver, make a table and that kind of stuff. Our teacher even told us that the different sections of a web page such as header, footer, main content etc are called frames. I was like WTF!! God, that class was so dumb I wished I took something more useful as it took like two years to complete and I learned nothing. Oh and our teacher also told us if we make an image in say Paint and saved it as a jpeg it would automatically be a vector!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so true. Education is a big part of why people don&#8217;t create sites with web standards. At school I did a BTEC IT course which took up two GCSES everyone and I mean everyone got the top grade because it was so easy and all you had to do was make some stuff in Office. We did make a website but it was just open up Dreamweaver, make a table and that kind of stuff. Our teacher even told us that the different sections of a web page such as header, footer, main content etc are called frames. I was like WTF!! God, that class was so dumb I wished I took something more useful as it took like two years to complete and I learned nothing. Oh and our teacher also told us if we make an image in say Paint and saved it as a jpeg it would automatically be a vector!</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Nuggets in Scrunchup by Anton Palitsyn</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/css-nuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>Anton Palitsyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, Anna. But the lack of IE support is a real deal-breaker for most of the clients we work with.

We (where I work) recently had an internal discussion about rounded corners, for example. Safari, Firefox and Chrome support rounded corners introduced in CSS3, but IE doesn&#039;t... of course. So we thought that for IE we could just use a javascript solution. We don&#039;t want people with REAL browsers downloading extra images and it really is a waste of time creating nested divs just for rounded corners. In worst case scenario, IE users with JS disabled would get regular corners.

But the aim should always be to create a similar experience for the majority of the audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Anna. But the lack of IE support is a real deal-breaker for most of the clients we work with.</p>
<p>We (where I work) recently had an internal discussion about rounded corners, for example. Safari, Firefox and Chrome support rounded corners introduced in CSS3, but IE doesn&#8217;t&#8230; of course. So we thought that for IE we could just use a javascript solution. We don&#8217;t want people with REAL browsers downloading extra images and it really is a waste of time creating nested divs just for rounded corners. In worst case scenario, IE users with JS disabled would get regular corners.</p>
<p>But the aim should always be to create a similar experience for the majority of the audience.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Proper Web Standards Education: Part 2 by Gareth Poole</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/a-proper-web-standards-education-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth Poole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great post, some useful information in there thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great post, some useful information in there thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Proper Web Standards Education: Part 2 by Daniel Lambert</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/a-proper-web-standards-education-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great information on the Law and thanks for the links to the cases, I didn&#039;t read them but just seeing a link to an article on a company like Target getting sued should be enough to make people take action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great information on the Law and thanks for the links to the cases, I didn&#8217;t read them but just seeing a link to an article on a company like Target getting sued should be enough to make people take action.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Nuggets in Scrunchup by Andy</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/css-nuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superb article. You have truly inspired me to investigate some of these more obscure CSS properties. The grid issue in particular had me thrown recently. I ended up resolving it with some php and complex div nesting, but wasnt perfect. Wished I&#039;d known about nth-of-type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superb article. You have truly inspired me to investigate some of these more obscure CSS properties. The grid issue in particular had me thrown recently. I ended up resolving it with some php and complex div nesting, but wasnt perfect. Wished I&#8217;d known about nth-of-type.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Proper Web Standards Education: Part 2 by Chris Mills</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/a-proper-web-standards-education-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, some details added to the article about law. See http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/a-proper-web-standards-education-part-2/#accessible_law</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, some details added to the article about law. See <a href="http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/a-proper-web-standards-education-part-2/#accessible_law" rel="nofollow">http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/a-proper-web-standards-education-part-2/#accessible_law</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on A Proper Web Standards Education: Part 2 by Chris Mills</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/a-proper-web-standards-education-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some nice ideas here. I will definitely add a note to the article, and aim to write some more detailed accessibility stuff for future issues. The standards-based site versus non-standards-based site idea has already been done a while ago, on A List Apart, I thought, but I&#039;m buggered if I can actually find the URL ;-(

I&#039;m pretty sure it was Sergio Villarreal who wrote it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some nice ideas here. I will definitely add a note to the article, and aim to write some more detailed accessibility stuff for future issues. The standards-based site versus non-standards-based site idea has already been done a while ago, on A List Apart, I thought, but I&#8217;m buggered if I can actually find the URL ;-(</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure it was Sergio Villarreal who wrote it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Proper Web Standards Education: Part 2 by Daniel Lambert</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/a-proper-web-standards-education-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was use I would just edit the article and add a little mention of the law and write more about it in the future. What I would do next issue is compare a standards based site v a non-standards based site so show how the code looks, what screen readers see and actually show how much trouble it is to mantain it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was use I would just edit the article and add a little mention of the law and write more about it in the future. What I would do next issue is compare a standards based site v a non-standards based site so show how the code looks, what screen readers see and actually show how much trouble it is to mantain it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Proper Web Standards Education: Part 2 by Chris Mills</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/a-proper-web-standards-education-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Daniel. Yup, you are a pretty much right - although it&#039;s not _that_ simple. But legislation does form an important part of it, especially with more court cases around web accessibility these days.

I am wondering whether I should add something to this article, or just write a whole new article covering accessibility (or accessibility and law) basics....wow, there is a whole series we could do there.

When Anna makes the ScrunchUp millions, she can take us on as full-time writers (joke ;-) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Daniel. Yup, you are a pretty much right &#8211; although it&#8217;s not _that_ simple. But legislation does form an important part of it, especially with more court cases around web accessibility these days.</p>
<p>I am wondering whether I should add something to this article, or just write a whole new article covering accessibility (or accessibility and law) basics&#8230;.wow, there is a whole series we could do there.</p>
<p>When Anna makes the ScrunchUp millions, she can take us on as full-time writers (joke ;-) )</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Nuggets in Scrunchup by Daniel Lambert</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/css-nuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some pretty good tricks here will deffo take a note.</description>
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		<title>Comment on A Proper Web Standards Education: Part 2 by Daniel Lambert</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/a-proper-web-standards-education-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything you say here is 100% right and it&#039;s also important to point out that in some countries it&#039;s against the law if your commercial site does not follow accessibility guidelines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything you say here is 100% right and it&#8217;s also important to point out that in some countries it&#8217;s against the law if your commercial site does not follow accessibility guidelines.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Nuggets in Scrunchup by Andy Walpole</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/css-nuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Walpole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or alternatively instead of:

filter:shadow(color=gray, direction=100,
strength=5);

This:

filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Shadow(color=&#039;#666666&#039;, Direction=100, Strength=5)

Read more here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms533086%28VS.85%29.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or alternatively instead of:</p>
<p>filter:shadow(color=gray, direction=100,<br />
strength=5);</p>
<p>This:</p>
<p>filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Shadow(color=&#8217;#666666&#8242;, Direction=100, Strength=5)</p>
<p>Read more here:</p>
<p><a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms533086%28VS.85%29.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms533086%28VS.85%29.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Nuggets in Scrunchup by Bram.us &#187; CSS Nuggets in Scrunchup</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/css-nuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Bram.us &#187; CSS Nuggets in Scrunchup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Some lovely CSS2.1/CSS3 tricks used in Scrunchup  Spread the word! [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Nuggets in Scrunchup by gordee</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/css-nuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>gordee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really useful tips Anna - thanks! 

I&#039;m playing around with the transform:rotate; with images and I think it adds a nice touch to a page but do you have any advice about flowing text around a rotated image? At the moment I&#039;m losing some text &#039;behind&#039; the image once it has been rotated...

scrunchup is great by the way - I will be keeping an eye on it from now on :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really useful tips Anna &#8211; thanks! </p>
<p>I&#8217;m playing around with the transform:rotate; with images and I think it adds a nice touch to a page but do you have any advice about flowing text around a rotated image? At the moment I&#8217;m losing some text &#8216;behind&#8217; the image once it has been rotated&#8230;</p>
<p>scrunchup is great by the way &#8211; I will be keeping an eye on it from now on :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Nuggets in Scrunchup by Simon Hamp</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/css-nuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Hamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Anna! I like these practical examples. Definitely stuff I will be putting to good use in my designs.

It&#039;s hard trying to be a developer, designer, entrepreneur and doing it all satisfactorily! Maybe I just lack vision?

Keep up the good work :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Anna! I like these practical examples. Definitely stuff I will be putting to good use in my designs.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard trying to be a developer, designer, entrepreneur and doing it all satisfactorily! Maybe I just lack vision?</p>
<p>Keep up the good work :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Nuggets in Scrunchup by Anna Debenham</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/css-nuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Debenham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Martin, well spotted. I&#039;ve changed that now.</description>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Nuggets in Scrunchup by Martin Bean</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/css-nuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Bean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you have a typo...

&quot;The href*=’.pdf’ bit looks for anything that contains the string http://flickr.com.&quot;

Should the href*=’.pdf’ be, in fact, href*=”http://flickr.com”?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you have a typo&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The href*=’.pdf’ bit looks for anything that contains the string <a href="http://flickr.com." rel="nofollow">http://flickr.com.</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>Should the href*=’.pdf’ be, in fact, href*=”http://flickr.com”?</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS Nuggets in Scrunchup by Richard</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-2/css-nuggets/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To get the effect for the first paragraph, I usually use the adjacency selector to pick up the first paragraph below a h1.

p {font-size: 100%}

h1 + p {font-size: 150%}

This isn&#039;t too foolproof, though - for example, if you have an image between the h1 and p, you need:

h1 + img + p {...}

but it&#039;s a fairly nice alternate way to achieve that effect!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To get the effect for the first paragraph, I usually use the adjacency selector to pick up the first paragraph below a h1.</p>
<p>p {font-size: 100%}</p>
<p>h1 + p {font-size: 150%}</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t too foolproof, though &#8211; for example, if you have an image between the h1 and p, you need:</p>
<p>h1 + img + p {&#8230;}</p>
<p>but it&#8217;s a fairly nice alternate way to achieve that effect!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Twitter Poll: Education or Employment? by Russell Bishop</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-1/twitter-poll-education-or-employment/comment-page-1/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t believe education won! I strongly believe it&#039;s not the way to go. Then again, I&#039;m assuming the question means;

Want to be a web designer? Education or employment...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t believe education won! I strongly believe it&#8217;s not the way to go. Then again, I&#8217;m assuming the question means;</p>
<p>Want to be a web designer? Education or employment&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Path to Epic Success by Phil Ricketts</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-1/the-path-to-epic-success/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Ricketts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. I went to college (UK - Further Education, not Higher Education like University) and studied Graphic Design. After that I started a business rather than goto Uni, and I&#039;m so glad I did. I had some hard times, wanted to give up at a few points - but it was all worth it. The experience and skills gained were valuable. 

As above, I had to learn how to deal with late-payers, contracts etc. 

If I could add to this, it would be about marketing. Don&#039;t be sucked in by companies like Yell.com who promise to generate X amount of leads for you and position it like a completely worthwhile investment. There is no guarantee with advertising. Just do lots of networking, do great work, and make your clients excited about you. You&#039;ll soon have return business and a growing clientbase.

Great article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. I went to college (UK &#8211; Further Education, not Higher Education like University) and studied Graphic Design. After that I started a business rather than goto Uni, and I&#8217;m so glad I did. I had some hard times, wanted to give up at a few points &#8211; but it was all worth it. The experience and skills gained were valuable. </p>
<p>As above, I had to learn how to deal with late-payers, contracts etc. </p>
<p>If I could add to this, it would be about marketing. Don&#8217;t be sucked in by companies like Yell.com who promise to generate X amount of leads for you and position it like a completely worthwhile investment. There is no guarantee with advertising. Just do lots of networking, do great work, and make your clients excited about you. You&#8217;ll soon have return business and a growing clientbase.</p>
<p>Great article.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Proper Web Standards Education: Part 1 by Dan</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-1/a-proper-web-standards-education/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solid advice. Can&#039;t really argue with any of it. 

I cut my web design teeth, at college, early in the standards movement before it was in full swing and as such I have experience of using things like table based layouts, framesets and font tags. I don&#039;t regret this though. In fact, I see it very much as an advantage. I have seen both sides of the coin and because I had this experience I got a real sense of just how important modern web standards are.

With that in mind I would advise people just getting into the industry to build a few practice sites the old way. Use crap code. Use tables and framesets. Use WYSIWYG editors in design view *shudders*. That way you&#039;ll have hands on experience of the benefits of web standards and you can draw on that experience when progressing in the industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solid advice. Can&#8217;t really argue with any of it. </p>
<p>I cut my web design teeth, at college, early in the standards movement before it was in full swing and as such I have experience of using things like table based layouts, framesets and font tags. I don&#8217;t regret this though. In fact, I see it very much as an advantage. I have seen both sides of the coin and because I had this experience I got a real sense of just how important modern web standards are.</p>
<p>With that in mind I would advise people just getting into the industry to build a few practice sites the old way. Use crap code. Use tables and framesets. Use WYSIWYG editors in design view *shudders*. That way you&#8217;ll have hands on experience of the benefits of web standards and you can draw on that experience when progressing in the industry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Proper Web Standards Education: Part 1 by mintos</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-1/a-proper-web-standards-education/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>mintos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wad up homies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wad up homies</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Path to Epic Success by Mark Stevenson</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-1/the-path-to-epic-success/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Stevenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really sound advice :)</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Path to Epic Success by Aaron Watkins</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-1/the-path-to-epic-success/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Watkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding late payments, if you make quite clear that you expect payment terms of 30 days and you have no specific provisions in your contract, look into the Late Payment Legislation. I&#039;ve used this many a time to apply statutory charges (ie. charges set out in law) of either £40, £70 or £100 (depending on invoice size) + interest at 8% above the base rate.

Using a hard-line approach on this, I&#039;ve received over £1000 in charges and interest and my clients stopped being lazy about paying me on time.

Obviously, take into account the balance of power in your relationship. If this is your only client and you think it&#039;ll be hard to find other work, you may wish to exercise your judgment.

Aaron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding late payments, if you make quite clear that you expect payment terms of 30 days and you have no specific provisions in your contract, look into the Late Payment Legislation. I&#8217;ve used this many a time to apply statutory charges (ie. charges set out in law) of either £40, £70 or £100 (depending on invoice size) + interest at 8% above the base rate.</p>
<p>Using a hard-line approach on this, I&#8217;ve received over £1000 in charges and interest and my clients stopped being lazy about paying me on time.</p>
<p>Obviously, take into account the balance of power in your relationship. If this is your only client and you think it&#8217;ll be hard to find other work, you may wish to exercise your judgment.</p>
<p>Aaron</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Proper Web Standards Education: Part 1 by Daniel Lambert</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-1/a-proper-web-standards-education/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update Chris and I can&#039;t wait for the next issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update Chris and I can&#8217;t wait for the next issue.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Path to Epic Success by Andrew Pryde</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-1/the-path-to-epic-success/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Pryde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its great to see the site on-line after so only sitting watching the slow progress on the google group I&#039;m really proud to see that you guys have done it. 

The article is great and as a 17 year-old freelance &quot;website maker&quot; I can really identify with some of these points. 

Keep up the good work,

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pryde-design.co.uk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Prydie&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its great to see the site on-line after so only sitting watching the slow progress on the google group I&#8217;m really proud to see that you guys have done it. </p>
<p>The article is great and as a 17 year-old freelance &#8220;website maker&#8221; I can really identify with some of these points. </p>
<p>Keep up the good work,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pryde-design.co.uk" rel="nofollow">@Prydie</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Path to Epic Success by Matt Oakes</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-1/the-path-to-epic-success/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Oakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@chris I&#039;ll keep an eye on your twitter feed for some stuff about upcoming events :)</description>
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		<title>Comment on Interview with Zac Gordon by Kyle Cotter</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-1/interview-with-zac-gordon/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Cotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a student of Mr. Gordon and I&#039;d just like to say that he has been an amazing webucator (http://whatisawebucator.com/). I&#039;ve had him for two years and I have to say he is the best web teacher I&#039;ve had. He makes everything easy to understand and lets you do a lot of hands on examples in class. Since he has his own business he can help young freelancers plan a course of success in the web world and is always up to date on the latest web trends. I really enjoy Mr. Gordon&#039;s class and I feel he is very dedicated to his students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a student of Mr. Gordon and I&#8217;d just like to say that he has been an amazing webucator (<a href="http://whatisawebucator.com/" rel="nofollow">http://whatisawebucator.com/</a>). I&#8217;ve had him for two years and I have to say he is the best web teacher I&#8217;ve had. He makes everything easy to understand and lets you do a lot of hands on examples in class. Since he has his own business he can help young freelancers plan a course of success in the web world and is always up to date on the latest web trends. I really enjoy Mr. Gordon&#8217;s class and I feel he is very dedicated to his students.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Path to Epic Success by chris</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-1/the-path-to-epic-success/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@matto1990 I&#039;m based around Manchester too mate, and although London/Brighton has the Lion&#039;s share of good geek meetups, Manchester is not completely devoid. The are the Northern Digitals meetups, which are quite designy, the geekup meets, which are a lot more developy/nerdy, and there are some new events coming up at the start of next year which I&#039;m involved in a little (not really allowed to say much right now!)

Plus I will be running some seminars and stuff ooop North along with some of my colleagues at Opera Software fairly soon. Watch this space ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@matto1990 I&#8217;m based around Manchester too mate, and although London/Brighton has the Lion&#8217;s share of good geek meetups, Manchester is not completely devoid. The are the Northern Digitals meetups, which are quite designy, the geekup meets, which are a lot more developy/nerdy, and there are some new events coming up at the start of next year which I&#8217;m involved in a little (not really allowed to say much right now!)</p>
<p>Plus I will be running some seminars and stuff ooop North along with some of my colleagues at Opera Software fairly soon. Watch this space ;-)</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Proper Web Standards Education: Part 1 by Chris Mills</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-1/a-proper-web-standards-education/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there Daniel - thanks for the comment! I entirely agree; Part 2 of this article series (3 in total) discusses all the benefits of using web standards, but you&#039;ll have to wait till the next edition of ScrunchUp!

I&#039;ve noticed that this article doesn&#039;t really state very clearly what is covered in the next one. I&#039;ll add a bit more description now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there Daniel &#8211; thanks for the comment! I entirely agree; Part 2 of this article series (3 in total) discusses all the benefits of using web standards, but you&#8217;ll have to wait till the next edition of ScrunchUp!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed that this article doesn&#8217;t really state very clearly what is covered in the next one. I&#8217;ll add a bit more description now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Path to Epic Success by Luke</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-1/the-path-to-epic-success/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 05:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I am just starting up and will try to apply most of this.

I think the best idea in this post is the last one. Happiness is the key to success!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I am just starting up and will try to apply most of this.</p>
<p>I think the best idea in this post is the last one. Happiness is the key to success!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Interview with Zac Gordon by Daniel Lambert</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-1/interview-with-zac-gordon/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 04:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a seriously great interview. It&#039;s good to know that their are some teachers out there that are actually teaching web standards. The Web Design section of my IT Course at School involved opening up Dreamweaver in Design View and using Tables for layout!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a seriously great interview. It&#8217;s good to know that their are some teachers out there that are actually teaching web standards. The Web Design section of my IT Course at School involved opening up Dreamweaver in Design View and using Tables for layout!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Proper Web Standards Education: Part 1 by Daniel Lambert</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-1/a-proper-web-standards-education/comment-page-1/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 04:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chris,

This was a pretty simple introduction to web standards however it didn&#039;t touch on the benefits of them however it was still good and a great way for a complete beginner to get started. For those who want to know the main benefit of following web standards well it has to be that by building your site according to web standards it will work correctly across all browsers which implement the standards properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chris,</p>
<p>This was a pretty simple introduction to web standards however it didn&#8217;t touch on the benefits of them however it was still good and a great way for a complete beginner to get started. For those who want to know the main benefit of following web standards well it has to be that by building your site according to web standards it will work correctly across all browsers which implement the standards properly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Path to Epic Success by Matt Oakes</title>
		<link>http://scrunchup.com/issue-1/the-path-to-epic-success/comment-page-1/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Oakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some really useful points there. I attended my first web conference in Bristol (FOWD Tour) and loved it so much. I glad the guys at carsonified had the option for a student ticket (£20 is cheap enough for me).

I&#039;m still looking for some web related meetups in Manchester though. There doesn&#039;t seem to be all that much up north for some reason :S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some really useful points there. I attended my first web conference in Bristol (FOWD Tour) and loved it so much. I glad the guys at carsonified had the option for a student ticket (£20 is cheap enough for me).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still looking for some web related meetups in Manchester though. There doesn&#8217;t seem to be all that much up north for some reason :S</p>
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		<title>Comment on Interview with Zac Gordon by Matt Oakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Oakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just started doing a Computer Science degree at the University of Manchester and so far it&#039;s going really well. My ultimate goal is to be a web developer and I have a lot of those skills now (PHP, semantic XHTML, CSS etc), however I&#039;m finding some of the information in other courses is really helpful. I&#039;m learning how to use Linux properly for the first time which is great because it&#039;s making me see how badly I setup my VPS.

I think education is great even if you read around the subject. In the next few years I can specialize a bit more in web related stuff but at the minute I&#039;m loving just finding out about stuff that isn&#039;t related to the web at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just started doing a Computer Science degree at the University of Manchester and so far it&#8217;s going really well. My ultimate goal is to be a web developer and I have a lot of those skills now (PHP, semantic XHTML, CSS etc), however I&#8217;m finding some of the information in other courses is really helpful. I&#8217;m learning how to use Linux properly for the first time which is great because it&#8217;s making me see how badly I setup my VPS.</p>
<p>I think education is great even if you read around the subject. In the next few years I can specialize a bit more in web related stuff but at the minute I&#8217;m loving just finding out about stuff that isn&#8217;t related to the web at all.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Esteban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I following u around 2 months ago. I really like everything you are doing for this clan called internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I following u around 2 months ago. I really like everything you are doing for this clan called internet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Employment and Portfolios by Christelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks very much for this article. It&#039;s very helpful and I haven&#039;t seen anything like it before. This site seems like a great resource for students like myself. Although I must admit I&#039;m not young... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much for this article. It&#8217;s very helpful and I haven&#8217;t seen anything like it before. This site seems like a great resource for students like myself. Although I must admit I&#8217;m not young&#8230; ;)</p>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Hamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are brilliant points Anna. I wish I&#039;d applied some of this when I was just starting out. The great thing is, some of these tips can be applied at any point during your career.

I certainly intend to do some of these even now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are brilliant points Anna. I wish I&#8217;d applied some of this when I was just starting out. The great thing is, some of these tips can be applied at any point during your career.</p>
<p>I certainly intend to do some of these even now!</p>
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		<dc:creator>goodwitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zac, thanks so much for sharing your web vision and knowledge with your high school students.  You (and educators like you) are such an integral part of the continued and future success of the web!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zac, thanks so much for sharing your web vision and knowledge with your high school students.  You (and educators like you) are such an integral part of the continued and future success of the web!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go Web Ed!  Zac is a great teacher and we&#039;re proud to have him in our area!</description>
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